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		<title>By: Jeff Utecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Utecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. There needs to be some accountability that these skills are being taught. Where that fits, who is to hold teacher&#039;s accountable? I&#039;m not sure. In a perfect world teacher&#039;s would hold themselves accountable right?

I like what Chris Lehmann said in his recent video. &quot;Data is the work kids do everyday&quot;. We&#039;re so into this &quot;snapshot&quot; phase of education, this phase of a test, or a once or twice a year formal observation that we forget that good teaching and good learning is what happens every day. If we truly believe in student centered learning then the kids should be the ones telling us what they are learning through their projects, reflections, and portfolios. It should be the students responsibility to tell us what they have learned or are learning.

http://www.practicaltheory.org/serendipity/index.php?/archives/1042-IgnitePhilly-Five-Minutes-To-Communicate.html

Of course we&#039;ve been doing this as parents for years. &quot;What did you learn today?&quot; has been the welcoming cry of students coming home for generations. Are we doing that in our schools? Are we asking students to question and reflect on their learning? Or do we just ask them to ace the test? :)</description>
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<p>I like what Chris Lehmann said in his recent video. &#8220;Data is the work kids do everyday&#8221;. We&#8217;re so into this &#8220;snapshot&#8221; phase of education, this phase of a test, or a once or twice a year formal observation that we forget that good teaching and good learning is what happens every day. If we truly believe in student centered learning then the kids should be the ones telling us what they are learning through their projects, reflections, and portfolios. It should be the students responsibility to tell us what they have learned or are learning.</p>
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<p>Of course we&#8217;ve been doing this as parents for years. &#8220;What did you learn today?&#8221; has been the welcoming cry of students coming home for generations. Are we doing that in our schools? Are we asking students to question and reflect on their learning? Or do we just ask them to ace the test? <img src='http://struth.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Penang &#124; Worlds Biggest Cities</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penang &#124; Worlds Biggest Cities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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